Newtown Township

Board of Supervisors

Work Session

Minutes of August 14, 2006

 

Members Present: Anne Goren, Chairman; Philip Calabro, Vice Chairman; Jerry Schenkman, Secretary/Treasurer; Richard Weaver, Member; Paul Beckert, Solicitor; Robert M. Pellegrino, Township Manager; Chris Fazio, Engineer. Not present was Tom Jirele, Member.

Also Present: Ed Murphy, Murphy and McBride; Father Piccard, St. Andrew’s Church; Bill Wert, Parks & Recreation Director; Parks & Recreation Committee members including Andrew Levin and Michael Clancy; Dave Sanders, Esquire; Kim Labrake, MKSD Architects; Scott Mill, Van Cleff Engineers; Karl Janetka, Van Cleef Engineers; Jeffrey Lamaroe, Van Cleff Engineers; Tom Beresford, Newtown Presbyterian Church; Robert Solarz, Gilmore & Associates, Inc.; Various Newtown Township and Newtown Borough residents including Ethel Hibbs, Nancy Crescenzo, Walt Iwaskiw, John D’Aprile, James McCrane, Shawn Ward, Tom Ames, Jonathan Gold, Bill Sterling, Mr. & Mrs. Warren Keyser, Steve Popescu, Rich Driscoll, Holly Ames, Marie Baldwin, Heidi Driscoll, Dave Rinker and Rand Jaslow.

Call to Order: Chairman Goren called the meeting to order at 8:05 P.M.

St. Andrews Church Parking Lot Expansion

Mr. Murphy updated the Supervisors on the parking lot expansion at St. Andrews Church. He advised that the proposal is to expand the parking lot, adding approximately 125 additional parking spaces. This process would increase the impervious surface space. He discussed the two items that would need relief from the Township and advised on discussions with the Planning Commission. He advised that St. Andrews Church is looking for the support of the Board of Supervisors and requested consideration to seek a partial waiver of the land development process. He advised the Supervisors on the additional work being done to the property at the same time as the proposed parking lot expansion.

Ms. Goren requested that the Board be provided a copy of the proposed plans. Mr. Murphy provided the Supervisors with copies of the proposed plans.

The Supervisors reviewed copies of the proposed plans.

Mr. Murphy advised the Supervisors on the proposed plan with regards to the additional parking spaces and the storm water management controls.

Mr. Murphy updated the Supervisors with regards to the other project that the parish is currently involved with the sale of the daycare located along Sycamore Street.

Mr. Beckert advised the Supervisors on other waivers that have been approved by the Township regarding the land development process.

Mr. Murphy advised that he is scheduled to appear before the Zoning Hearing Board on September 7, 2006.

Mr. Schenkman advised that he was concerned with the water runoff. Mr. Murphy advised the Supervisors with regards to the water runoff and advised on conversations with the Township Engineer, Chris Fazio.

Mr. Calabro questioned if the sidewalks would be extended. Mr. Murphy advised that the sidewalks would be extended in certain areas, that there would be additional storm water management, islands would be added to the parking lot and that the parking lot would have directional instructions for drivers to follow.

Mr. Schenkman made a motion to waive the Land Development Fee. The motion was seconded by Mr. Weaver and passed unanimously.
Ms. Goren advised that due to the number of individuals attending tonight’s meeting, item C – use of the Wiggins Tract by Sports Organizations would be discussed before item B.
Use of Wiggins Tract by Sports Organizations

Mr. Levine updated the Supervisors on his presentation at last Wednesday’s meeting, where he discussed the prior Board of Supervisor’s approval of the Township Comprehensive Plan. He discussed the Township’s authorization to install a driveway into the Wiggins Tract and the residential development being constructed by Orleans. He advised on the Comprehensive Plan with regards to the Wiggins Tract. He provided copies of an aerial view of the Wiggins Tract. He discussed the local soccer organizations and the parks in Upper Makefield Township and advised that currently there are no soccer fields in Newtown Township. He advised that the Parks & Recreation Committee is proposing three (3) soccer fields and one (1) practice football field at the Wiggins Tract. He advised on the proximity of the adjacent properties to the Wiggins Tract and that there is no lighting or PA system being proposed for the Wiggins Tract. He proposed that the soccer fields be used by elementary age students. He discussed other parks located within the Township. He advised that the sports organization has agreed to raise funds for the project.

Mr. Levine requested that the Supervisors allow the Parks & Recreation Committee to proceed in developing the fields for the children’s use. He advised that the four (4) fields would be temporary until the Woll Tract is complete.

Mr. Calabro commented on the possibility of using the School District’s fields and suggested contacting the School District to discuss the matter. Mr. Levine commented with regards to using the School District’s fields.

Mr. Levine advised the Supervisors on the Committee’s past attempts to develop additional fields at Roberts Ridge or Silver Lake Parks and the Committee being advised by the Board of Supervisors to stick with the Comprehensive Plan.

Mr. Levine advised the Supervisors that there are currently three (3) soccer associations within the Township.

Mr. Schenkman questioned the cost estimates involved with developing the temporary fields. Mr. Levine advised that the engineering cost are approximately $5,000.00, the cost to develop the parking lot is between $7,000.00 - $10,000.00 and that the parking lot would be stoned.

Mr. Fazio advised that the handicap parking spaces would need to be paved. Mr. Levine advised that it is the intention of the Committee to speak further with the Township Engineer and the Planning Commission.

Mr. Schenkman questioned the cost involved with maintaining the fields. Mr. Levine advised that currently the Township regularly mow the fields at the Wiggins Tract and discussed the soccer teams help with maintaining the fields. He advised on discussion with Mr. Wert regarding the possibility of requesting an escrow from the leagues.

Mr. Schenkman commented with regards to having a contract with the leagues. Mr. Levine advised that he would look to the Board for guidance and suggested requiring a permit for use of the field and establishing a lease agreement for the parking lot. He also discussed restricting the parking lot only to the clubs that have contributed.

The Supervisors discussed policing the fields to check on the use.

The Supervisors discussed the leagues contributing to the cost of the project.

Mr. Calabro questioned who is currently maintaining the fields. Mr. Levine advised that the Township currently maintains the fields.

Mr. Calabro questioned if the fields will be used for Township sponsored soccer tournaments. Mr. Levine advised that is not the intention of the Parks & Recreation Committee.

Mr. Weaver advised that he likes the layout.

Mr. Pellegrino advised that he is satisfied.

Mr. Keyser advised that he owns the land located behind the Wiggins Tract and did not received any notification of the proposal for the Wiggins Tract to be used by local sports organizations until today. He advised that the fields are located closer to his property than the Stone House. He discussed the past history of the Wiggins Tract, the type of soils on the site, the 1996 Comprehensive Plan, liability issues, noise issues, the properties closeness to horse fields, the amount of space available for a useable parking area, the dumping of stone into a wet area, there being no discussions regarding buffering and approving the proposal in one (1) week. He commented with regards to the lack of tree lines on adjacent properties. He advised that the residents are extremely concerned with the speed of the project and requested that the Supervisors refer the proposal to the Planning Commission for review. He commented with regards to an article in the Bucks County Courier Times on July 27, 2006 discussing the 9/11 Memorial Donation and the Township’s Recreation Impact Fees. He thanked the Board for their donation to the 9/11 Memorial. He advised that he believes the mowing of the fields will have to increase. He suggested that the Committee look into using other parks or school fields.

Mr. Driscoll, Waterford Place, advised that the Waterford Estates Home Owners Association has safety concerns with regards to having people in the ponds and the traffic on Route 532.

Mr. Ames, Gaucks Lane, advised that he has safety concerns for accessing and exiting the site. He commented on the need for an acceleration/deceleration lane, the need for a Highway Occupancy Permit and that the Township should not rely on Orleans to build the entryway. He advised that he is against restricting the use of the park and commented that the Wiggins Tract is a Township park. He also commented with regards to the bathroom facilities and advised that he supports Mr. Keyser’s suggestion that the Supervisors refer the matter to the Planning Commission.

Mrs. Keyser advised the Supervisors that she is against the proposed developing of the Wiggins Tract.

Ms. Crescenzo commented with regards to open space being paid for by tax dollars and advised that she is against restricting the use of Township fields. She commented with regards to the development of the Staples Field and the field now being unusable due to its condition. She discussed the local neighbors of the Wiggins Tract having the right to be heard. She advised that she has researched the soccer club’s website and the children are being serviced. She questioned Upper Makefield’s concerns. She commented on the words in kind and advised that does not work well with Parks & Recreation, she discussed the Clark Property and Silver Lake Park. She suggested having discussions with Council Rock School District to check the availability of using their fields and the condition of the Staples Field. She also suggested that the Township’s Comprehensive Plan be thoroughly reviewed, she discussed demographics, the needs of the community, money and the proposed Municipal Complex expansion.

Dr. Gold, Upper Makefield resident, discussed the fields in Upper Makefield and advised that they are in bad condition. He commented on the children needing the fields to play and questioned what open space is for. He advised that the use of the fields would benefit the children. He commented that no lights are being proposed and discussed the benefits of athletic programs.

Mr. Levine responded to the comments being made. He advised that an amphitheater is not being proposed for the site and he would have discussions with regards to making the fields more publicly available. He commented with regards to 552 liability and advised that the Committee has no intention of using the Tanner property and will appear before the Planning Commission. He discussed the Highway Occupancy Permit and the residents concerns with regards to the ponds and safety. He commented on the problems with the Staples Field being important but not being relevant to the discussions on the Wiggins Tract. He advised that the Township needs more fields with lighter use.

Ms. Ames, Gaucks Lane, discussed the current condition of the Wiggins Tract and advised that she feels that the fields can not be just lined and filled.

Ms. Baldwin commented with regards to having restricted use of the soccer field and questioned how that differs from other fields. She discussed the conditions of the Township’s current soccer fields and advised that she is in favor of the fields.

Mr. Popescu advised that he has two (2) boys who play soccer and one (1) of the boys has never played a game in Newtown. He also discussed soccer becoming more popular and the ability to play the sport year round.

Ms. Driscoll, Waterford Place, discussed the installation of the parking area and the cost for the stone. She commented on the need to go through the proper process with regards to getting the project approved.

Mr. Popescu advised that the President of the soccer club has walked the Wiggins Tract and is happy with the condition of the field.

Mr. Levine advised that it is the Committee’s only intent to start the process for the Highway Occupancy Permit. He requested the Board to consider using other Township properties for the sports leagues. He advised on prior discussions with the School District for use of the fields. He advised that currently there is the need to service 1,200 children in the soccer clubs and 800 children are Newtown residents.

Ms. Goren questioned the soil analysis. Mr. Fazio advised with regards to the soil analysis and what should be done before building on the soil.

Mr. Levine advised that the Committee would take this project to the Planning Commission.

Mr. Fazio advised that more information is needed before digging the parking area.

The Supervisors discussed apply for the Highway Occupancy Permit to begin the process for constructing the entranceway to the site.

Ms. Crescenzo commented on the cost involved with soil sampling and soil test bores. Mr. Fazio advised with regards to soil sampling, test boring and designing the site.

Mr. Schenkman questioned the limit to what the clubs are willing to spend. Mr. Levine discussed spending limits and offered other possibilities.

The Supervisors discussed the Highway Occupancy Permit process and what information would become available to the Township. Mr. Fazio advised with regards to the Highway Occupancy Permit process and having an engineer begin designing the parking area to see if there are any bad areas on the site.

Mr. Beckert questioned if Mr. Levine is requesting the Board of Supervisors to authorize the application for the Highway Occupancy Permit. Mr. Levine advised that the Committee would like the Board of Supervisors to authorize proceeding with the Highway Occupancy Permit and that the Committee will appear before the Planning Commission to discuss the proposed use of the Wiggins Tract.

Mr. Levine also requested the Supervisors to allow the Committee to authorize the lining out of fields at Silver Lake and Roberts Ridge Parks for temporary use.

Mr. Weaver advised that he did not have a problem of using the fields at Silver Lake and Roberts Ridge Parks.

Mr. Calabro commented on the temporary fields at the Wiggins Tract. Mr. Levine advised that the fields at the Wiggins Tract would be permanent, but the parking lot may have a temporary entranceway.

Mr. Calabro questioned if the fields at the Wiggins Tract would be in use after the Woll Tract was developed. Mr. Levine advised that the plan for the Woll Tract only has one (1) full size soccer field.

Mr. Calabro questioned when the children would be able to start using the fields at the Wiggins Tract. Mr. Levine advised that he would expect to use the fields by the fall of 2007.

Mr. Calabro commented on the work needed to be done to develop the Woll Tract, what is being proposed for the Wiggins Tract and advised that he feels the Township should continue to concentrate on the development of the Woll Tract. Mr. Levine advised that he does not expect the Woll Tract to be completed until the next three (3) or four (4) years.

Ms. Goren questioned Mr. Pellegrino to see if the $5,220.00 for the Highway Occupancy Permit is available in Recreation Impact Fees. Mr. Pellegrino advised that the $5,220.00 for the Highway Occupancy Permit is available.

The Supervisors discussed making a motion to assign the $5,220.00 for the Highway Occupancy Permit.

Mr. Calabro questioned who is paying the $5,220.00 Highway Occupancy Permit. Ms. Goren advised that the money would come out of the Recreation Impact Fees. Mr. Levine advised on discussions with the Upper Makefield Soccer Club and that it is his impression that the clubs will reimburse the Township, but he has no written documentation.

The Supervisors discussed being reimbursed from the clubs who would be using the Wiggins Tract.

Mr. Calabro commented on the need to explore all of the Township’s options before moving forward. He discussed Council Rock School District and the existing fields that can be used. Mr. Levine advised on his discussions and the soccer clubs discussions with the School District regarding use of the fields. He also advised the current Supervisors on prior discussions with the Board of Supervisors denying use of Silver Lake and Roberts Ridge Parks for soccer use and referred to the Comprehensive Plan.

Mr. Calabro questioned if Silver Lake and Roberts Ridge Parks would be suitable for soccer use. Mr. Levine advised that he believes the fields would be fine for soccer use. He commented that if the Supervisors would like to use Silver Lake and Roberts Ridge Parks that would be much easier and parking is already available.

Ms. Goren commented on the development of the Comprehensive Plan and the planned uses of the park land.

The Supervisors discussed the possible redevelopment of the Comprehensive Plan.

Mr. Calabro commented on the Comprehensive Plan being old and questioned why the Township is having this discussion when there are other park facilities that could be appropriate for soccer use without all of the cost.

Mr. Schenkman suggested that before the Supervisors decide to abandon the Comprehensive Plan, they have further discussions on the impacts to the Township.

Mr. Levine advised that he did not feel that the Comprehensive Plan was dated.

Mr. Weaver made a motion to have the Township proceed with the Highway Occupancy Permit and be reimbursed from the athletic clubs. The motion was seconded by Mr. Schenkman and passed.

Mr. Ward advised on the procedures of the Planning Commission and that as a resident he is in favor of the Board of Supervisors proceeding with the Highway Occupancy Permit and that he is also in favor of using Silver Lake and Roberts Ridge Parks on a temporary basis.

Mr. Levine suggested that if the Supervisors agree to authorize temporary use of the fields at Silver Lake and Roberts Ridge Parks it should only be for one (1) year.

Mr. McCrane questioned when the Highway Occupancy Permit is applied for in the development process. Mr. Levine advised the Committee is requesting to apply for the Highway Occupancy Permit in the beginning of the project due to the pre-approved driveway. Mr. Pellegrino advised that the Highway Occupancy Permit is normally applied for once the preliminary plan is submitted.

Mr. McCrane questioned who reviews the preliminary plan. Mr. Pellegrino advised that the Township Engineer reviews Land Development Applications and the Traffic Engineer reviews Highway Occupancy Permits

Mr. McCrane suggested that this discussion take place at a televised meeting.

Mr. Clancy, Country Bend discussed the Township’s Master Plan being dated, the effort put into developing the plan and advised that he is against abandoning the Comprehensive Plan. He commented on the proposed changes to the plan.

Mr. Iwaskiw commented on Parks & Recreation’s limited funding, rushing into the Highway Occupancy Permit and suggested that it makes more sense to approve two (2) or three (3) seasons use at Silver Lake and Roberts Ridge Parks.

Mr. Keyser commented on rushing into the process, there being no notification to local residents and there are no documents showing that the Township will be reimbursed.

Ms. Crescenzo questioned the Supervisors’ motion. Mr. Beckert advised that the motion is to authorize applying for a Highway Occupancy Permit at the expense of the groups involved.

Mr. Weavers advised that his motion is intended for the Township to pay the cost for the Highway Occupancy Permit.

Mr. Schenkman withdrew his second to Mr. Weaver’s motion.

Mr. Weaver amended his motion to clarify that the Township will be reimbursed by the athletic clubs for the cost of the Highway Occupancy Permit.

Mr. Schenkman advised that he wold like documentation to confirm that the Township will be reimbursed before putting out the funds.

Ms. Crescenzo advised that she feels that this discussion should have taken place at a televised meeting.

Mr. Pellegrino advised that the Orleans Corporation is responsible to pay for the entranceway to the Wiggins Tract and the possibility of Orleans applying for the Highway Occupancy Permit.

The Supervisors discussed the possibility of the Highway Occupancy Permit being paid for by Orleans.

Mr. Beckert suggested having input from the Planning Commission before the Board of Supervisors proceeds with the matter.

Mr. Calabro commented that he would feel more comfortable having the documentation guaranteeing the reimbursement and the absence of one (1) Supervisors. He suggested discussing the matter further at a televised meeting.

Ms. Goren advised that the Township would not go forward with the Highway Occupancy Permit until receiving documentation guaranteeing reimbursement and having the Township Engineer research if Orleans may already be paying for the Highway Occupancy Permit.

Mr. Weaver amended motion is to authorize the application for a Highway Occupancy Permit at the expense of the groups involved. The motion was seconded by Mr. Schenkman and passed three/one. (3/1).

Elliott Building Group – Promenade at Sycamore “Old Acme Site”

The Supervisors were provided an updated copy of the proposed plans for the Promenade at Sycamore.

Mr. Sanders updated the Supervisors on the changes to the proposed plans. He discussed the suggestions received from the Supervisors at the July Work Session. He advised that the building with the restaurant would not be moved it would be reduced by 2’ on each side of center. He discussed suggestions to lower the height of the buildings and consider removing the third floor of the restaurant building and advised that the third floor over the restaurant building has been removed and that now there are sixteen (16) proposed residential units. He advised that the height of the new buildings at the mean roofline is 43’ and advised on what will stick up above the mean roofline. He advised that the first floor has been reduced from 20’ to 17’, the archway clearance has been reduced from 19’ to 14’ 4” center and 13’ 9” at the edges and that the second and third floors have also been reduced from 14’ each to 13’ each. He believes that the view from the Church has been improved.

Ms. Labrake advised on the view from the Church.

Mr. Sanders discussed the comments made regarding handicapped parking.

Ms. Labrake advised that a handicapped van accessible parking space has been added to the first level of the parking garage.

Mr. Sanders discussed the suggestion to consider the addition of a walking path from the parking garage to the Church and advised that an area has been added to the parking garage on level 1.5 to provide access to the Church property.

Mr. Sanders discussed the suggestion to put the HVAC units on the roof and screen with architectural elements and advised that Elliott Building Group has agreed to do that.

Mr. Sanders discussed the comment concerning the trash enclosure area behind the restaurant building and advised that area has been expanded.

Mr. Sanders discussed the concerns with the size, height and the impact to Sycamore Street and advised that he feels that Elliott Building Group has addressed the concerns.

Mr. Sanders advised that thirteen (13) spaces have been lost in the parking garage, which reduced the number of parking spaces from 275 to 262 parking spaces. He advised on Mr. Lamaroe’s figures with regards to parking.

Mr. Sanders advised that as a result of the redesign, the impervious coverage is being decreased slightly and a variance for impervious coverage is no longer needed.

Ms. Goren questioned the total square footage with the new plan. Mr. Sanders advised that he is concerned with the Board of Supervisors being too focused on a magic number. He commented on the originally submitted plans reviewed by the Supervisors and discussed gross and net square feet.

Ms. Labrake advised that the net square feet is 77,825 sq. ft.

Mr. Sanders advised that the gross square footage is 89,100 sq. ft. and that the first floor height will be 17’ and the second and third floor heights will be 13’ with 9’ceilings.

Mr. Ward questioned the overall height of the building. Mr. Sanders and Ms. Labrake advised that the overall building height is 49’ and the mean roofline is 43’.

The Supervisors discussed the definition of the mean roofline.

Mr. Schenkman questioned how much the roofline has been lowered. Mr. Sanders advised that the roofline has been lowered 6’.

Mr. Beckert commented on the sides of the roof and the view of the HVCA units from the Church. Mr. Sanders advised that Elliott Building Group will do what needs to be done to hide the HVCA units from the Church’s view.

Mr. Sanders advised that the Church sticks up 42’ above the street line.

Ms. Goren advised that she has concerns due to the plans not being to scale. Ms. Labrake advised that the proposed plans are proportioned but not to scale.

Mr. Schenkman commented on discussions with Elliott Building Group and visiting the site. Mr. Sanders invited the Board of Supervisors to view the site, he advised that the site has been outlined to show the two (2) buildings and the parking garage. He discussed other locations with similar structures. He suggested setting up a date with Mr. Pellegrino.

Mr. Beckert advised on concerns regarding the building heights in relation to the street.

Th e Supervisors discussed the visual impact to Sycamore Street.

Mr. Beckert commented on traffic volume concerns.

The Supervisors discussed the square footage with regards to the zoning ordinance and calculating parking spaces and traffic volume.

Mr. Sanders advised that a preliminary traffic study has been done and discussed the need for a new traffic study.

Mr. Beckert advised on the Board of Supervisors difficulty with the square footage, he commented on the moving up of the buildings for a streetscape but the rears of the buildings were not moved. He discussed the request for a parking variance and the construction easement needed from the Church.

Mr. Sanders advised that if the building were smaller, he does not believe the Township would be receiving what the proposal provides to the Township.

Mr. Beckert suggested reducing the number of retail spaces.

Mr. Sanders discussed the originally submitted plan showing 62,500 sq. ft. not being accurate.

Mr. Ward advised the Supervisors on the views of the Planning Commission.

Ms. Goren commented on the second floor being used by Elliott Building Group and the possibility of leasing out some of the space. Mr. Sanders advised that at this time Elliott Building Group does not need the entire second floor.

Ms. Goren suggested reducing the size of the second floor of the building without the restaurant.

Ms. Goren suggested moving the rear of the buildings forward.

Mr. Sanders discussed the impervious coverage space on the originally submitted plan and the impervious coverage space now.

Mr. Beckert questioned what Elliott Building Group is looking for tonight. Mr. Sanders advised that he would like to have the Board of Supervisors acknowledge that Elliott Building Group has addressed the concerns discussed at their last meeting and concur with the plan being proposed this evening and that if this plan were built today it would be a benefit and fulfill the vision of the Visioning Committee and the Board of Supervisors that entered into the Redevelopment Agreement, by saying that Elliott Building Group would feel more comfortable with moving forward with a Conditional Use Hearing, a Zoning Board Application and preliminary as final plan.

Ms. Goren commented on Elliott Building Group moving in the right direction.

Mr. Calabro commented on there only being one access point to the site. Mr. Sanders advised that there are no plans for a second access point along Sycamore Street or Eagle Road.

Mr. Calabro advised that he feels that Elliott Building Group has not addressed safety concerns and that the buildings are still too high.

Mr. Schenkman commented on how the development will fit into the community. He discussed the Redevelopment Agreement and advised that he likes the idea of viewing similar properties.

Mr. Weaver advised that he would also like to see similar locations and that he has no problem with one (1) access point to the site.

Ms. Crescenzo reminded the Board of Supervisors with regards to one in/one out entryways (example – Rose Bank Winery). She suggested that the Supervisors stop wasting time and advise Elliott Building Group on the bottom line. She discussed the redevelopment process. She commented on the road trip and suggested inviting the Planning Commission. She suggested posting similar properties on the Township’s web site to allow the public a chance to view if they desire. She discussed the Church property and suggested that the Supervisors advise Elliott Building Group on their expectations.

Mr. Ward commented on the property only having one access point and the overall size of the plan. He discussed the traffic impact study and the total number of parking spaces. He suggested having the proposed plans reviewed by the Township Engineer and the Township Planner.

Mr. Beckert questioned the Conditional Use going with the Land Development Plan. Mr. Sanders advised that it is Elliott Building Group’s position at this time.

Mr. Beckert commented that the matter will not go before the Planning Commission on August 15, 2006 and that there will be no Conditional Use Hearing on August 23, 2006. Mr. Sanders agreed.

Mr. Beckert questioned if Elliott Building Group will appear before the Zoning Hearing Board on September 14, 2006 or September 21, 2006. Mr. Sanders advised that it would depend on the outcome of the discussions with the Board of Supervisors.

Mr. Beresford, President of the Board of Trusties of the Newtown Presbyterian Church, requested to be provided a copy of the site view from the Church property and discussed the removal of the trees located on both the Acme site and the Church property. He also questioned the buffering process.

Mr. Beckert advised Mr. Beresford that Elliott Building Group would need a construction easement from the Church and the position that the Church can take. He also advised that the buffering appears to take place on the Church’s property.

Mr. Beresford discussed the Church’s peak and the proposed buildings’ peaks.

Mr. Schenkman requested that the Church allow Township representatives onto the Church’s property. Mr. Beresford advised that is would be okay for Township representatives to go onto the Church’s property and would like to be invited to participate on the road trip.

Mr. Sanders advised that he would not meet with the Planning Commission on August 23, 2006 for the Conditional Use Hearing.

Mr. Beckert questioned if Elliott Building Group would be submitting a revised list of the variances being requested. Mr. Sanders advised that would be done.

Mr. Sanders advised that he would organize the road trip with Mr. Pellegrino.

The Supervisors agreed to continue discussions at an October meeting.

Mr. Beckert advised on correspondence received from Mr. Walsh on behalf of the Church.

The Supervisors thanked the representatives from Elliott Building Group for their time.

Stoopville Road Traffic Calming Plan

Mr. Solarz updated the Board on Supervisors on the Stoopville Road traffic-calming plan. He discussed the recommendations for the intersections of Stoopville Road/Hemlock Roads and Linton Hill Road/Creamery Road. He suggested that the Township submit the plan and traffic study to PennDot.

Ms. Goren commented on having traffic calming devices on the straight-aways on Stoopville Road and discussed the gateway treatments available. Mr. Solarz offered to take the Supervisors on a tour to view other towns traffic calming measures and advised on possible gateway treatments.

Ms. Goren commented on the location of the gateway treatment and questioned the possibility of having it located closer to Upper Makefield.

Mr. Calabro advised on his concerns with speeding and questioned how effective the proposed measures would be. Mr. Solarz advised on the effectiveness and discussed the options available.

Mr. Pellegrino questioned if the Township could test a roundabout to see if it works. Mr. Solarz advised that would be possible.

Ms. Crescenzo discussed the disadvantages of roundabouts and the need to enforce the speed limit.

Ms. Goren discussed having the final plan reviewed by Mr. Dan Lockwood before submitting to PennDot.

Mr. Schenkman commented on the cost involved with having the final plan reviewed by Mr. Dan Lockwood. Ms. Goren advised that information could be obtained.

Mr. Rinker commented on having a study done by another party.

Mr. Pellegrino advised the Supervisors that he would look into the cost involved with having the final plan reviewed by Mr. Lockwood and he would update the Supervisors.

Mr. Solarz discussed the traffic circles in New Jersey and the use of roundabouts.

Mr. Rinker commented on the traffic traveling along Stoopville Road and expressed his concerns. He questioned the timeline of the project.

Mr. Pellegrino advised on discussions with the Delaware Valley Regional Planning Commission.

Mr. D’Aprile commented on the use of a roundabout at the intersection of Stoopville Road/Hemlock Road. He advised on his driving experiences and that he is against installing roundabouts on Stoopville Road.

Ms. Crescenzo requested that the Stoopville Traffic Calming Study be put onto the Township website.

Ms. Goren commented on having additional parties’ review the final plan.

Mr. D’Aprile advised that the Newtown Grant Master Board is against installing roundabouts on Stoopville Road.

Mr. Calabro commented on setting a timeline for the project. He advised that several residents that live along Stoopville Road have contacted him.

The Supervisors discussed the plan being reviewed by PennDot and the Delaware Valley Regional Planning Commission.

Mr. Solarz suggested submitting the plan to PennDot now.

Mr. Rinker advised that he feels it is a bad idea to submit the plan to PennDot without having it reviewed by another party. He questioned what the Township could do immediately.

Mr. Pellegrino discussed submitting the plan to PennDot, the Delaware Valley Regional Planning Commission and Mr. Lockwood for review.

The Supervisors thanked Mr. Solarz for his time.

Joint Comprehensive Plan Update

The above discussion has been postponed until the September Work Session.

Vacating Certain Paper Streets

Mr. Beckert advised the Supervisors with regards to vacating certain paper streets and discussed the procedure to vacate the streets. He questioned if the Board of Supervisors would like to proceed forward to vacate certain paper streets.

Mr. Schenkman made a motion to authorize the Township Solicitor to advertise an ordinance to vacate certain paper streets. The motion was seconded by Mr. Weaver and passed unanimously (4/0).

Authorization to Advertise Revised Electrical Contractor Ordinance

Mr. Beckert updated the Supervisors on the proposed revised electrical contractor ordinance.

Mr. Weaver made a motion giving authorization to advertise the revised electrical contractor Ordinance. The motion was seconded by Mr. Schenkman and passed unanimously (4/0).

Payment #18 Sycamore Street Improvements – Construction Inspection

The above discussion has been postponed until a later date.

Payment #15 Sycamore Street Improvements – Construction Inspection

The above discussion has been postponed until a later date.

Community Comments

Mr. Sterling commented with regards to agricultural sales. Mr. Beckert advised on discussions with the attorney for the Jointure and that he plans to discuss the matter at the Planning Commission meeting on August 15, 2006.

Ms. Crescenzo questioned the difference between a work session and a televised meeting. Ms. Goren advised that the Board could take action at a work session that would be taken at a televised Board meeting and that work sessions are more for discussions.

Ms. Crescenzo commented with regards to voting on matters at work sessions and the need to vote on matters at televised Board meetings.

Mr. Schenkman discussed the possibility of televising the work sessions.

Other Business

Adjournment

Without objection, the meeting was adjourned at 12:32 P.M.

Once the meeting adjourned the Supervisors met in Executive Session.

 

Respectfully Submitted:

 

Christy Holley, Recording Secretary